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136  Course Assignments / WEEK THREE / Re: structure and isomorphism on: September 01, 2005, 05:03:36 PM
bobby --

Very good summary of Korzybski... very good indeed!
nice art too.

Those seeking more info -- SCIENCE AND SANITY, CHPS 4 TO 10
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137  Course Assignments / WEEK THREE / Re: Lawrence Sterne and FW on: August 30, 2005, 11:27:07 AM
In the first 7 paragraphs especially
--but also thru'out the text--
JJ has conflated
Lawrence Sterne
Lawrence O'Toole
Tristram de St Lawrence*
and Lawrence County, GA
so that they form some kinda
mystical
unity


so, of course,
there's another Dublin
in Lawrence County, GA

of course


*builder of Howth Castle c 1170 e.v. Shocked Angry
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138  Course Assignments / WEEK THREE / Re: EP on Language in Poetry on: August 30, 2005, 11:08:23 AM
I figure these rules wd
eliminate 90% of all
bad poetry if
we all had to follow them Grin
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139  Any and Everything / Group Space / Re: Vico and FW on: August 30, 2005, 10:59:22 AM
Vico got accused of heresy frequently
so he wrote with a sense that
the Holy Office wd read
every woid
most carefully....
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140  Any and Everything / Group Space / Re: The Sea in the Cantos and FW on: August 30, 2005, 10:53:56 AM
Anudder synchro-mesh -- I just looked at EVERYONE SAYS I LOVE YOU
on HBO a few nights ago

Also the Tempio we're reading about seems full of sea-gods. A book called
THE STONES OF RIMINI attributes this to Sigismundo's
facination with the philosopher Gemiso Plethon

See opening of Canto 83
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141  Course Assignments / WEEK THREE / Re: structure and isomorphism on: August 29, 2005, 07:56:14 AM
psmith

Consider halley's comet --

If we "know" anything about it, we "know" its periodicity, a space-time structure
defined by newton's equations which seem isomorphic to
the phenomena.

Or a map of U.S. showing 3 cities in this order

LOS ANGELES        BOSTON              DENVER     

NOT isomorphic to terrritory.

Second map

LOS ANGELES        DENVER              BOSTON

does seem isomorphic.

As Kung said "to know what precedes and what
follows aids your comprehension of Dao" [processing].
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142  Course Assignments / WEEK THREE / Sigismundo's temple on: August 29, 2005, 07:40:02 AM
The photo in Week Three Assignment shows the inside of the Temple...
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143  Any and Everything / Group Space / Re: Vico and FW on: August 28, 2005, 06:21:27 PM
Norman O. Brown argued that we can't translate Vico into English
because English 'is' too honest.

Brown, CLOSING TIME
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144  Any and Everything / Group Space / Re: Quantum Oz on: August 28, 2005, 06:14:33 PM
Mike Horowitz, Leary's archivist, believes or once believed
that THE WIZARD OF OZ foretells Tim's whole career....
The only details I remember: Tim = the Wiz,
Kansas = Harvard,
acid = cyclone,
L5 = Oz,
wicked witch = CIA.....
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145  Any and Everything / Group Space / Re: The Sea in the Cantos and FW on: August 28, 2005, 06:03:49 PM
Interestin pernt -- both Ez & JJ wrote some of their best lines about the sea....

Both JJ's first book [Chamber Music] and his last [FW] end with sea imagery and the saal-women or sea-hags.....
who also appear in wot EZ originally intended as the first Canto

Fascinatin'....
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146  Course Assignments / WEEK TWO / Re: the Ideogrammic "brain" on: August 28, 2005, 05:52:49 PM
The Japanese govt. thought so highly of Fenollosa's work
that they buried him in a grove reserved for
national heroes

after he wuz dead of course

Ez has had a lot of japanese poets
in his fan club for 70 years now

i don't know wot this "proves"
but it seems relevant
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147  Course Assignments / WEEK TWO / Re: Shit, Shinola, Subjectivity, and Extreme Relativism on: August 27, 2005, 02:34:25 PM
http://www.pottymouth.org/humor/shinola.html

perhaps the answer?  Grin
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148  Course Assignments / WEEK TWO / Re: Chrisian bible & Xtianity in FW's opening 7 paragraphs on: August 27, 2005, 02:23:44 PM
paragraph 1

Eve and Adam > 'Fall' of Man

paragraph 2

avoice from afire > the burning bush
mishe mishe > Hebrew moishe moishe [Moses, Moses!] wot the voice said first
mishe, mishe Gaelic I Am I Am > I Am Who Am > the "name" given by the voice
thuartpeatrick > thou art Peter/tu est petrus > English & Latin for the pun on which the church of rome aleges itself fonde
peatric > patrick, patron saint of Ireland

kadscad...isaac > Jacob stealng Isaac's blessing

sosie > Susan Old Testament heroine
sesthers > Esther, another
wroth > a third

Jhem or Shen > Ham, Shem and Jaaphet, 3 sons of noah
regginbrow > rainbow, after the flood
aqua > the flood

paragraph 3
 
the fall  > Eve/Adam etc

paragraph 4

fishygods > fish as symbol of Christ

bidmetoloves > Bid me to live/thy Protestant to be [North Irishy hymn]
tegotetabsolvers > te ego absolve [Caholic confession]

false jiccup > jacob swindling Issaac again

paragraph 5

joshuan > Joshua
judges > Book of Judges
numbers  > Book of Numbers
deuteronomy  > more Old Testament
moses -- ditto
gunessses > genesis

paragraph 7

sin business > chrstianity
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149  Course Assignments / WEEK TWO / Re: Pound - knowledge of Chinese article on: August 27, 2005, 11:48:47 AM
Achilles Fang of Harvard preferred Ez's
translations of Chinese texts to more
traditional versions

Daniell Colye who recently got a Ph.d. in
Chinese language and literature likes Pounds's
translation of Dao as "the process" better than earlier
attempts but thinks "'process" alone even better

I don't know enough to venture an opinion Roll Eyes
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150  Any and Everything / Group Space / Re: origin of class title?? on: August 27, 2005, 11:28:50 AM
Tale of the tribe in the case of Wake & Cantos includes
all humanity as the "tribe"
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